Comments on: Converting to Open Source http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/ Ripping mobility from the clutches of telecom Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Continuing Symbian Signed Conversation http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-413682 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Continuing Symbian Signed Conversation Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:22:37 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=612#comment-413682 [...] of the points I was harping on at and around the Symbian Partner conf were my perceived issued with the Symbian Signed effort. As a developer I get no benefit out of the [...] [...] of the points I was harping on at and around the Symbian Partner conf were my perceived issued with the Symbian Signed effort. As a developer I get no benefit out of the [...]

]]> By: miker http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-411736 miker Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:26:10 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=612#comment-411736 Hi Bruce! There's definitely upside to be had from a signing process that validates authenticity and guarantees compatibility. The process should get out of the developers way unless they feel like taking advantage of those traits however. The current system feels like it's tilted way too far in favor of carrier/operator concerns instead of developer or even end-user. I might be biased because the signing process has caused me headaches before, and I haven't yet at all derived any benefit at all from it in any form across any project. Maybe that'll change at some point if Skyfire gets big enough. But we haven't hit that inversion point yet. Hi Bruce! There’s definitely upside to be had from a signing process that validates authenticity and guarantees compatibility. The process should get out of the developers way unless they feel like taking advantage of those traits however. The current system feels like it’s tilted way too far in favor of carrier/operator concerns instead of developer or even end-user. I might be biased because the signing process has caused me headaches before, and I haven’t yet at all derived any benefit at all from it in any form across any project. Maybe that’ll change at some point if Skyfire gets big enough. But we haven’t hit that inversion point yet.

]]> By: bcarney http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-411563 bcarney Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:04:01 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=612#comment-411563 "asked a question about application binary signing, which is an excellent example of control point thinking ....." On the contrary, and this is the most widely misunderstood aspect of Symbian Signed; i.e. it's primary purpose since inception, has been to ensure openness and prevent a control point. Symbian Signed consists of an independently obtainable identity certificate (Publisher ID), independent test houses and an industry agreed test criteria. Symbian Signed is not controlling, censoring or profiting from anyones application. The result, for almost all of the device capabilities, if you meet the requirements of the test criteria (a basic common sense regression test) your app will install on any Symbian S60/UIQ device on any operator network via any distribution channel anywhere in the world? “asked a question about application binary signing, which is an excellent example of control point thinking …..”

On the contrary, and this is the most widely misunderstood aspect of Symbian Signed; i.e. it’s primary purpose since inception, has been to ensure openness and prevent a control point.

Symbian Signed consists of an independently obtainable identity certificate (Publisher ID), independent test houses and an industry agreed test criteria.

Symbian Signed is not controlling, censoring or profiting from anyones application. The result, for almost all of the device capabilities, if you meet the requirements of the test criteria (a basic common sense regression test) your app will install on any Symbian S60/UIQ device on any operator network via any distribution channel anywhere in the world?

]]> By: JonB http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-411170 JonB Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:00:29 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=612#comment-411170 "The other interesting bit in his presentation was their approach to branding and ensuring a consistent platform across Symbian based devices. They’re actually putting together a software test suite to exercise the APIs and behavior of a base system and using that as the yardstick for compliance. And the test suite itself is part of what goes out as open source. If your product passes the test suite, you should be good to go. Very nice." I read this and thought I've read something very similar recently. Sounds like Google are doing something similar with the Android platform according to Rich Miner, who was talking to the MIR guys at FoM. http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/11/mir_show_-_week_46_-_rich_miner_from_google.html “The other interesting bit in his presentation was their approach to branding and ensuring a consistent platform across Symbian based devices. They’re actually putting together a software test suite to exercise the APIs and behavior of a base system and using that as the yardstick for compliance. And the test suite itself is part of what goes out as open source. If your product passes the test suite, you should be good to go. Very nice.”

I read this and thought I’ve read something very similar recently. Sounds like Google are doing something similar with the Android platform according to Rich Miner, who was talking to the MIR guys at FoM.

http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/11/mir_show_-_week_46_-_rich_miner_from_google.html

]]> By: Open Source Symbian and N97 Hands-On | Wap Review http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/12/05/converting-to-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-410566 Open Source Symbian and N97 Hands-On | Wap Review Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:53:54 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=612#comment-410566 [...] There's more on the event and the N97 on the web; TnkGrl with 13 pictures of the N97 and Mike Rowehl on the Symbian Partner Event,  bloggers dinner and Symbian Signed. [...] [...] There’s more on the event and the N97 on the web; TnkGrl with 13 pictures of the N97 and Mike Rowehl on the Symbian Partner Event,  bloggers dinner and Symbian Signed. [...]

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