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	<title>Comments on: Microb Browser Extension Testing</title>
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		<title>By: Antoine of MMM/Brighthand</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-246185</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine of MMM/Brighthand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had assumed that FF and nicroB were much more similar than not, but after reading this and the comments, I see that I was indeed wrong on that note. It seems that microB was built on a considerably unoptimized archecture (probably released too early?) and that&#039;s part of the reason why these extensions are not so easy to develop. It would seem then that there could be no certainity on developing extensions on mircoB until the extension support for FF3 is finished (which is a while yet I think).

Had I know this, I probably wouldn&#039;t have bugged the developers that I have about their respective plugins. Now I know that I better bug the microB developers and see what can be done there ;)

To the commenter above, there is a Google Gears install for microB available: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=147784</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had assumed that FF and nicroB were much more similar than not, but after reading this and the comments, I see that I was indeed wrong on that note. It seems that microB was built on a considerably unoptimized archecture (probably released too early?) and that&#8217;s part of the reason why these extensions are not so easy to develop. It would seem then that there could be no certainity on developing extensions on mircoB until the extension support for FF3 is finished (which is a while yet I think).</p>
<p>Had I know this, I probably wouldn&#8217;t have bugged the developers that I have about their respective plugins. Now I know that I better bug the microB developers and see what can be done there ;)</p>
<p>To the commenter above, there is a Google Gears install for microB available: <a href="http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=147784" rel="nofollow">http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=147784</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alendit</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-245701</link>
		<dc:creator>Alendit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@all from browser-extras
Sorry, was my fault, I&#039;ve sent mails to a wrong address. Thanks for packaging Modify Headers.

P.S. This was my mail, if someone is interested

Hi, all
is it possible to port &#039;Modify Headers&#039;
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/967) to microb? I&#039;d do
that, but I have no idea what the differences between firefox and
microb are. Some links to this subject would be nice.

If someone know an easier way to add x-wap-profile string to microb
header i&#039;d very appreciate it.

Another question (a little off-topic, maybe): is it possible to turn complitely off https/ssl on microb? My Wap-Flat doesn&#039;t include https so I can&#039;t read my mail or feeds.

Alendit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@all from browser-extras<br />
Sorry, was my fault, I&#8217;ve sent mails to a wrong address. Thanks for packaging Modify Headers.</p>
<p>P.S. This was my mail, if someone is interested</p>
<p>Hi, all<br />
is it possible to port &#8216;Modify Headers&#8217;<br />
(<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/967" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/967</a>) to microb? I&#8217;d do<br />
that, but I have no idea what the differences between firefox and<br />
microb are. Some links to this subject would be nice.</p>
<p>If someone know an easier way to add x-wap-profile string to microb<br />
header i&#8217;d very appreciate it.</p>
<p>Another question (a little off-topic, maybe): is it possible to turn complitely off https/ssl on microb? My Wap-Flat doesn&#8217;t include https so I can&#8217;t read my mail or feeds.</p>
<p>Alendit</p>
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		<title>By: miker</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244752</link>
		<dc:creator>miker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alendit and James, interesting, I didn&#039;t know you could make a bookmark do change the config.  I thought that removing the override would be a pain (cause you can&#039;t really remove an item can you? You have to set it back to the default).  But bookmarking the change is a nice elegant solution to that.

@timeless, sure thing, Here&#039;s a hacked up version of adblock that had the change header in there as well:

http://www.thisismobility.com/software/adblock-plus-webaddon_0.7.5.3-3_all.deb

a direct modify headers package:

http://www.thisismobility.com/software/modifyheaders-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb

and another of the experiments, mostly modify headers based:

http://www.thisismobility.com/software/myextension-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb

I didn&#039;t realize the Microb stuff was so far divergent from the desktop, maybe I&#039;ll just drop it and fool around with minefield instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alendit and James, interesting, I didn&#8217;t know you could make a bookmark do change the config.  I thought that removing the override would be a pain (cause you can&#8217;t really remove an item can you? You have to set it back to the default).  But bookmarking the change is a nice elegant solution to that.</p>
<p>@timeless, sure thing, Here&#8217;s a hacked up version of adblock that had the change header in there as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisismobility.com/software/adblock-plus-webaddon_0.7.5.3-3_all.deb" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismobility.com/software/adblock-plus-webaddon_0.7.5.3-3_all.deb</a></p>
<p>a direct modify headers package:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisismobility.com/software/modifyheaders-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismobility.com/software/modifyheaders-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb</a></p>
<p>and another of the experiments, mostly modify headers based:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisismobility.com/software/myextension-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismobility.com/software/myextension-webaddon_0.0.1-1_armel.deb</a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize the Microb stuff was so far divergent from the desktop, maybe I&#8217;ll just drop it and fool around with minefield instead.</p>
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		<title>By: timeless</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244722</link>
		<dc:creator>timeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your problems. Could you possibly send me a link to version(s) of your extension? I&#039;d like to look.

Alendit: I don&#039;t recall such an email, what address did you use?

Miguel A. ArÃ©valo: Rumor has it that Google will publish it.

James: thanks for investigating, I wrote the feature and I&#039;m glad to hear it works as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your problems. Could you possibly send me a link to version(s) of your extension? I&#8217;d like to look.</p>
<p>Alendit: I don&#8217;t recall such an email, what address did you use?</p>
<p>Miguel A. ArÃ©valo: Rumor has it that Google will publish it.</p>
<p>James: thanks for investigating, I wrote the feature and I&#8217;m glad to hear it works as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: tonikitoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244691</link>
		<dc:creator>tonikitoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike: all ported extension so far (greasemonkey, spellchecker, flashblock and adblocker) required major manual work apart from &quot;dump&quot;s on debugging to find out which specific piece of code was breaking it ... the lack of xul, overlay, xbl makes ports really harder ... what i can tell is that currently all development is done/tested on i386 env and only after getting everything working on it we start making tests  on the device ... it also worths to say that microb&#039;s codebase is dated from firefox3/a5 frametime, when many problems existed on xpcom startup, extension manager and maybe further important components for extension development ... which makes all this process harder.
alendit:I didnot recall your email for browser-extras mailing list =/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike: all ported extension so far (greasemonkey, spellchecker, flashblock and adblocker) required major manual work apart from &#8220;dump&#8221;s on debugging to find out which specific piece of code was breaking it &#8230; the lack of xul, overlay, xbl makes ports really harder &#8230; what i can tell is that currently all development is done/tested on i386 env and only after getting everything working on it we start making tests  on the device &#8230; it also worths to say that microb&#8217;s codebase is dated from firefox3/a5 frametime, when many problems existed on xpcom startup, extension manager and maybe further important components for extension development &#8230; which makes all this process harder.<br />
alendit:I didnot recall your email for browser-extras mailing list =/</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, wordpress killed that link, but I&#039;ve tried accessing about:config from an external site with links, iframes and javascript and it appears to be secure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, wordpress killed that link, but I&#8217;ve tried accessing about:config from an external site with links, iframes and javascript and it appears to be secure</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244635</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alendit you beat me to the about:config tip. You can easily set it as a bookmark to change your user agent whenever you want. I was worried it could be abused if websites linked to about:config urls, to for example change the home page, but fortunately this &lt;a href=&quot;config?prefname=browser.startup.homepage&amp;prefvalue=http%3A%2F%2Fjames.co.nr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;doesn&#039;t work.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alendit you beat me to the about:config tip. You can easily set it as a bookmark to change your user agent whenever you want. I was worried it could be abused if websites linked to about:config urls, to for example change the home page, but fortunately this <a href="config?prefname=browser.startup.homepage&amp;prefvalue=http%3A%2F%2Fjames.co.nr" rel="nofollow">doesn&#8217;t work.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Miguel A. ArÃ©valo</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244614</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel A. ArÃ©valo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Google Gears for MicroB ? Is it possible ?

Having Google Readers on my 770 for online filtering my news while on the subway going to work would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Google Gears for MicroB ? Is it possible ?</p>
<p>Having Google Readers on my 770 for online filtering my news while on the subway going to work would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Alendit</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2008/02/27/microb-browser-extension-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-244589</link>
		<dc:creator>Alendit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
it&#039;s funny thaat i tried the same thing recently, with the same result.  I even wrote a mail to microb port team, no response yet. I solved the problem by installing privoxy and using add-header/hide-user-agent. 
If you just want to change your UA, go to about:config?prefname=general.useragent.override&amp;prefvalue=Mozilla%2F5.0+%28N8x0+like+iPhone%3B+U%3B+Linux+like+Mac+OS+X%3B+ARM%3B+en%29+AppleWebKit%2F420%2B+%28Gecko%2C+like+KHTML%29 , this will change your UA to that of iphone.

Cya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
it&#8217;s funny thaat i tried the same thing recently, with the same result.  I even wrote a mail to microb port team, no response yet. I solved the problem by installing privoxy and using add-header/hide-user-agent.<br />
If you just want to change your UA, go to about:config?prefname=general.useragent.override&amp;prefvalue=Mozilla%2F5.0+%28N8x0+like+iPhone%3B+U%3B+Linux+like+Mac+OS+X%3B+ARM%3B+en%29+AppleWebKit%2F420%2B+%28Gecko%2C+like+KHTML%29 , this will change your UA to that of iphone.</p>
<p>Cya.</p>
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