Comments on: Mobile AJAX http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/ Ripping mobility from the clutches of telecom Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mobile Ajax FAQ - mobilepulse mobile trends http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-719675 Mobile Ajax FAQ - mobilepulse mobile trends Wed, 11 May 2011 19:57:30 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-719675 [...] kritische Betrachtung zu dem Dokument hat Mike Rowehl geschrieben. Beides sehr [...] [...] kritische Betrachtung zu dem Dokument hat Mike Rowehl geschrieben. Beides sehr [...]

]]> By: Day of JS Event http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-672333 Day of JS Event Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:41:19 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-672333 [...] Alex Russell about browser support and during the state of the mobile web talk it reminded me of a set of discussions we had in June of 2007 about applying the AJAX model to mobile. The points that Dion and Ben made summarized the set of [...] [...] Alex Russell about browser support and during the state of the mobile web talk it reminded me of a set of discussions we had in June of 2007 about applying the AJAX model to mobile. The points that Dion and Ben made summarized the set of [...]

]]> By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Mobile Web from the Perspective of a Javascript Developer http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-260932 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Mobile Web from the Perspective of a Javascript Developer Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:48:12 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-260932 [...] who does a lot of Javascript online right now. Sometimes I think I’m insane for saying the mobile web isn’t ready for AJAX if the base functions don’t work yet. Maybe I’m being too conservative and I’ve somehow missed the boat on a new iteration [...] [...] who does a lot of Javascript online right now. Sometimes I think I’m insane for saying the mobile web isn’t ready for AJAX if the base functions don’t work yet. Maybe I’m being too conservative and I’ve somehow missed the boat on a new iteration [...]

]]> By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » iPhone Tools and Services at AdMob http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-163629 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » iPhone Tools and Services at AdMob Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:50:40 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-163629 [...] to be showing off some iPhone specific stuff at the Silicon Valley MoMo tonight. I’ve made plenty of comments about the whole idea of the mobile browser as a thin client for rich applications. Generally, I think the whole discussion has headed off the deep end already, [...] [...] to be showing off some iPhone specific stuff at the Silicon Valley MoMo tonight. I’ve made plenty of comments about the whole idea of the mobile browser as a thin client for rich applications. Generally, I think the whole discussion has headed off the deep end already, [...]

]]> By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Mobile Browser Testing http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-162391 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Mobile Browser Testing Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:02:29 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-162391 [...] Andrea has a post about mobile device testing up on the dotMobi blog. If I understand correctly he’s talking in this case about an Acid2 style set of tests for mobile browsers in particular. Would certainly be nice to have a baseline set of compatibility metrics for different features across the various browser types and handsets. I’ve fooled around with testing Javascript capabilities myself. [...] [...] Andrea has a post about mobile device testing up on the dotMobi blog. If I understand correctly he’s talking in this case about an Acid2 style set of tests for mobile browsers in particular. Would certainly be nice to have a baseline set of compatibility metrics for different features across the various browser types and handsets. I’ve fooled around with testing Javascript capabilities myself. [...]

]]> By: miker http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-151387 miker Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:06:37 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-151387 Yea, the N95 has it fixed, but all the previous versions seemed to have it, both N-series and E-series from what I've seen. The 6630 uses the services browser, which doesn't have the problem anywhere as far as I can tell. There's a services browser on the e61, and that doesn't have the issue. Just the webkit based one. Yea, the N95 has it fixed, but all the previous versions seemed to have it, both N-series and E-series from what I’ve seen. The 6630 uses the services browser, which doesn’t have the problem anywhere as far as I can tell. There’s a services browser on the e61, and that doesn’t have the issue. Just the webkit based one.

]]> By: Pete Ferne http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-151158 Pete Ferne Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:42:36 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-151158 FWIW your test page gives me "you survived" in the S60 webkit browser preinstalled on my N95 and in Opera 8.65 on the N95 and on a 6630. The preinstalled browser on the 6630 gives me nothing but doesn't crash (no js support). Which is curious, maybe the webkit bug has been fixed? Or maybe there's a particular problem with the E61 build? Either way, yuk. Hopefully projects like http://www.pavingways.com/frost-ajax-library/ will help. FWIW your test page gives me “you survived” in the S60 webkit browser preinstalled on my N95 and in Opera 8.65 on the N95 and on a 6630. The preinstalled browser on the 6630 gives me nothing but doesn’t crash (no js support). Which is curious, maybe the webkit bug has been fixed? Or maybe there’s a particular problem with the E61 build? Either way, yuk.

Hopefully projects like http://www.pavingways.com/frost-ajax-library/ will help.

]]> By: Lars http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-137676 Lars Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:41:03 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-137676 Hi Mike: "STOP IT ALREADY!" had me laughing out-loud.. 8-) I'm someone who does 'not' write code for a living, therefore not at all qualified to wander into that - obviously important - part of this conversation. However, starting in 2004 the operators here in Japan insisted on Flash as a default pre-install, so their menus would look fancy, which has allowed CP's to deploy browser-based contents/apps with the relative comfort of knowing 'no matter what handset, chances are pretty good it's gonna work..' Of course there are limitations to such a bold blanket statement, and I do hate to over-simplify, but the main point would indeed validate your further conclusion to "Get it working. Get it shipped. Get it in the hands of users." It's not a matter of If but When and as always more importantly How..! Cheers Hi Mike:

“STOP IT ALREADY!” had me laughing out-loud.. 8-)

I’m someone who does ‘not’ write code for a living, therefore not at all qualified to wander into that – obviously important – part of this conversation.

However, starting in 2004 the operators here in Japan insisted on Flash as a default pre-install, so their menus would look fancy, which has allowed CP’s to deploy browser-based contents/apps with the relative comfort of knowing ‘no matter what handset, chances are pretty good it’s gonna work..’

Of course there are limitations to such a bold blanket statement, and I do hate to over-simplify, but the main point would indeed validate your further conclusion to “Get it working. Get it shipped. Get it in the hands of users.”

It’s not a matter of If but When and as always more importantly How..!

Cheers

]]> By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Nintendo DS Opera Browser http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-137660 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » Nintendo DS Opera Browser Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:20:00 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-137660 [...] Javascript and DOM support? Well the few little prototype.js scripts that I had hanging around from adventures with the Nokia OS browser would seem to indicate that there’s a lot missing. I don’t see the bound AJAX requests [...] [...] Javascript and DOM support? Well the few little prototype.js scripts that I had hanging around from adventures with the Nokia OS browser would seem to indicate that there’s a lot missing. I don’t see the bound AJAX requests [...]

]]> By: Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » The Path to Progress http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/06/03/mobile-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-137400 Mike Rowehl: This is Mobility » Blog Archive » The Path to Progress Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:40:28 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=333#comment-137400 [...] the mobile AJAX angle just to use an example. A good 80% of the problems that are out there on both sides of that [...] [...] the mobile AJAX angle just to use an example. A good 80% of the problems that are out there on both sides of that [...]

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