Comments on: Mobile CSS Rendering http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/04/02/mobile-css-rendering/ Ripping mobility from the clutches of telecom Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:41:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Andrea Trasatti http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/04/02/mobile-css-rendering/#comment-111786 Andrea Trasatti Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:15:41 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=307#comment-111786 The W3C has started a group recently that is working exactly to produce test suites for mobile browsers. They are working fully in public, you can join the mailing list and comment on anything. They have already done some work about markup and CSS. They are also talking with OMA to see if they can include a test suite for mobile CSS. Ask for Dom, http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/ - Andrea The W3C has started a group recently that is working exactly to produce test suites for mobile browsers. They are working fully in public, you can join the mailing list and comment on anything. They have already done some work about markup and CSS. They are also talking with OMA to see if they can include a test suite for mobile CSS.

Ask for Dom, http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

- Andrea

]]> By: Heidi Pollock http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/04/02/mobile-css-rendering/#comment-104926 Heidi Pollock Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:51:12 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=307#comment-104926 There isn't anything to address the problem you're describing (namely, being able to identify when you've used a CSS property that is poorly supported on a given device). It's unlikely that there ever would be an automated test for identifying what CSS properties work on given mobile browser (as opposed to identifying what's valid, which sort of exists, though not really because there isn't much agreement on what constitutes valid Mobile CSS) because it's ultimately something that's only possible to verify with human eyeballs. This is true for PC browsers and why the Acid Test exists (http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/) When I was at Yahoo! I created a Mobile Acid test which, of course, they never officially launched. Luckily, I wrangled a "BSD license" for it so I put it up myself (http://www.jwtmp.com/a). Eventually, I'll edit out the references to Yahoo!, but for now it's a cool, quick way to see what simple CSS and XHTML-MP a mobile browser supports. Opera Mini doesn't do particularly well, though Opera Mobile is pretty good. And almost no mobile browser correctly honors the @media screen syntax to filter out styles meant only for PCs which is a huge pain. Mobile support for CSS is a total crapshoot. There isn’t anything to address the problem you’re describing (namely, being able to identify when you’ve used a CSS property that is poorly supported on a given device).

It’s unlikely that there ever would be an automated test for identifying what CSS properties work on given mobile browser (as opposed to identifying what’s valid, which sort of exists, though not really because there isn’t much agreement on what constitutes valid Mobile CSS) because it’s ultimately something that’s only possible to verify with human eyeballs. This is true for PC browsers and why the Acid Test exists (http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/)

When I was at Yahoo! I created a Mobile Acid test which, of course, they never officially launched. Luckily, I wrangled a “BSD license” for it so I put it up myself (http://www.jwtmp.com/a). Eventually, I’ll edit out the references to Yahoo!, but for now it’s a cool, quick way to see what simple CSS and XHTML-MP a mobile browser supports. Opera Mini doesn’t do particularly well, though Opera Mobile is pretty good. And almost no mobile browser correctly honors the @media screen syntax to filter out styles meant only for PCs which is a huge pain.

Mobile support for CSS is a total crapshoot.

]]> By: Paschal Nee http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/04/02/mobile-css-rendering/#comment-103186 Paschal Nee Tue, 03 Apr 2007 08:59:31 +0000 http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=307#comment-103186 Will this not do what you are looking for? http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ There's a mobile option on there, not sure exactly what spec it is validating against. Or is that what you mean when you mention the "The W3C mobile checker"? Will this not do what you are looking for?
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

There’s a mobile option on there, not sure exactly what spec it is validating against.

Or is that what you mean when you mention the “The W3C mobile checker”?

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