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	<title>Comments on: Email Clients - Java vs Native App</title>
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	<description>Ripping mobility from the clutches of telecom</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Between Brackets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gmail on your Nokia: mail as usual</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-219652</link>
		<dc:creator>Between Brackets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gmail on your Nokia: mail as usual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I know it&#8217;s not the best mail client, it&#8217;s not the smartest nor coolest, but hey, I&#8217;m lazy and don&#8217;t want to install extra mail clients that take up memory and resources if there&#8217;s a decent standard application installed (here&#8217;s another opinion). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I know it&#8217;s not the best mail client, it&#8217;s not the smartest nor coolest, but hey, I&#8217;m lazy and don&#8217;t want to install extra mail clients that take up memory and resources if there&#8217;s a decent standard application installed (here&#8217;s another opinion). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41879</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The native applications for email are very poor. They are notoriously difficult to configure and are generally very slow. This proves that hardware companies should stick to hardware. Flurry is good, but my absolute favorite is http://www.movamail.com which you can download from your WAP or WEB browser. You can consolidate all your webmail (yahoo, hotmail, Gmail etc) on any java enabled mobile device (both MIDP 1.0 - for those that still have them... and of course MIDP 2.0). Its simple to setup and use... and is very fast.
JT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The native applications for email are very poor. They are notoriously difficult to configure and are generally very slow. This proves that hardware companies should stick to hardware. Flurry is good, but my absolute favorite is <a href="http://www.movamail.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.movamail.com</a> which you can download from your WAP or WEB browser. You can consolidate all your webmail (yahoo, hotmail, Gmail etc) on any java enabled mobile device (both MIDP 1.0 - for those that still have them&#8230; and of course MIDP 2.0). Its simple to setup and use&#8230; and is very fast.<br />
JT</p>
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		<title>By: Carfield Yim</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41780</link>
		<dc:creator>Carfield Yim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will really like to know if there any free J2ME VM for pocket pc .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will really like to know if there any free J2ME VM for pocket pc &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Shai Almog</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41591</link>
		<dc:creator>Shai Almog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an E61 owner myself I have to agree, the Nokia email client sucks and the Java email clients are pretty good. However, Nokia's Java support is also pretty bad! Java startup time on Nokia is MUCH slower than other devices! Even Palm that has a simple and outdated VM starts Java faster than the Symbian Nokia devices which is amazing with their fast ARM CPU. I occasionally do cell phone VM porting for companies and I can tell you as a fact: Java's startup shouldn't be slow... Its just bad VM programming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an E61 owner myself I have to agree, the Nokia email client sucks and the Java email clients are pretty good. However, Nokia&#8217;s Java support is also pretty bad! Java startup time on Nokia is MUCH slower than other devices! Even Palm that has a simple and outdated VM starts Java faster than the Symbian Nokia devices which is amazing with their fast ARM CPU. I occasionally do cell phone VM porting for companies and I can tell you as a fact: Java&#8217;s startup shouldn&#8217;t be slow&#8230; Its just bad VM programming!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Rintoul</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41551</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Rintoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"GMail of course only works with a GMail account"

... although Gmail has an inbuilt facility to aggregate all your other accounts, so while sign-in requires a Gmail account, all your accounts can be visible within it :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GMail of course only works with a GMail account&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; although Gmail has an inbuilt facility to aggregate all your other accounts, so while sign-in requires a Gmail account, all your accounts can be visible within it :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Trasatti</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41405</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Trasatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds more like a criticism to the Nokia email client, than an appreciation of the other clients.

I think that it's great to have alternatives and that you can pick other email clients.
I suspect that if Nokia had implemented a good email client, you wouldn't be looking out for OTHER clients if not for the curiosity of trying them once.
This is what happened with Internet Explorer, isn't it? As soon as they made a good version working well, nobody downloaded Netscape anymore, they had a good client pre-installed.

I think there's space for other clients, of course, otherwise we would not have Thunderbird, but I think that if Nokia and other manufacturers can build efficient clients,*most* users won't be looking out for other clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds more like a criticism to the Nokia email client, than an appreciation of the other clients.</p>
<p>I think that it&#8217;s great to have alternatives and that you can pick other email clients.<br />
I suspect that if Nokia had implemented a good email client, you wouldn&#8217;t be looking out for OTHER clients if not for the curiosity of trying them once.<br />
This is what happened with Internet Explorer, isn&#8217;t it? As soon as they made a good version working well, nobody downloaded Netscape anymore, they had a good client pre-installed.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s space for other clients, of course, otherwise we would not have Thunderbird, but I think that if Nokia and other manufacturers can build efficient clients,*most* users won&#8217;t be looking out for other clients.</p>
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		<title>By: viteks.lv</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2006/11/21/email-clients-java-vs-native-app/#comment-41397</link>
		<dc:creator>viteks.lv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try ProfiMail from LonelyCatGames.com ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try ProfiMail from LonelyCatGames.com ?</p>
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