Ripping mobility from the clutches of telecom
Nokia E61 + Gmail + TMobile
Seeing as how I couldn’t get my typical email setup working well on the E61, I decided to poke around with some alternatives. I’ve been using Google Mail to get notifications for work already. They have an option to forward all messages but keep them in the inbox, which I have setup to forward all inbound emails to my TMobile SMTP gateway address. SMS notifications on inbound messages, and effective history, so it’s what I’ve been using for informational messages from the production servers. They have a nice mobile interface as well that’s usable from a browser.
So I decided to hack around not being able to get the email client to do what it’s supposed to in terms of fetching updates by setting up SMS notifications and using GMail. Gmail has a POP interface, which I found out from the fantastic E-Series blog does work with the messenger app. Both POP and SMTP actually. So I can get my notifications via SMS, and if necessary either connect to messenger or connect with the browser and do what I need to. I did have to poke around a bit to get this working though. Seems like it might be a TMo specific problem. Fetching email was fine, but SMTP didn’t work as described other places. I had to turn on encryption, but put the port back to 25 (standard SMTP). I remember someone mentioning that somewhere, maybe in a post about using GMail + TMo on the 6680 or something. So here are my settings for the connections (this seemed to be the trouble part):
- Incoming email:
- incoming mail serv: pop.googlemail.com
- mailbox type: POP3
- Security(ports): SSL/TLS
- Port: 995
- APOP secure login: off
- Outgoing email:
- Outgoing mail serv: smtp.googlemail.com
- Security (ports): StartTLS
- Port: 25
That got me up and going with Gmail on TMobile. Sure would be nice to try out other public email services using POP and SMTP directly from a handset. Yea, that would be really cool.
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about 4 years ago
Hi Mike,
That’s a good write up. Thanks for the kind words and stopping by my blog (e-series)
Cheers!
about 4 years ago
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME? BLOOD?!?! I’VE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN… THE PUBLIC HUMILIATION IS TOO MUCH!
Uh, ahem, yeah, I’ll send an email and figure out what happened to that stuff…
-R
about 4 years ago
Woohoo!!! ;-) Nice new webpage by the way. And yes, blood would help.
about 3 years ago
If you send from google using smtp, does a copy go into your sent mail folder on gmail, or do you have to find another way to get your handheld replies into gmail?
Steven
about 3 years ago
Hey Steven,
Indeed a copy does go into your sent mail folder.
- Mike
about 3 years ago
Have you had any luck configuring the tmo.blackberry.net email from tmobile? just curious.
-p
about 3 years ago
Hi,
i tried the settings you gave, what it does is it says connecting to gmail inbox, and nothing ever happens !
HELP !
about 3 years ago
I don’t work at Google or anything, I just tried out the setup and it worked for me. Still does as far as I can tell. And the config up there matches what I have on my E61.
about 3 years ago
I need help setting up email for yahoo on the E61. Can anyone help please. I NEED SETTING!!!
about 3 years ago
everything seems to be working on my e61, but when i recieve e-mails, all the old e-mails in my gmail inbox disappear and only the new ones show up. they are not deleted from the server, just on the device.
in gmail, i’ve set “Enable POP for all mail (even mail that’s already been downloaded)”. though oddly, everytime i go back to that setting, it’s no longer selected. i’m guessing gmail makes that change after your first download of all e-mails.
any ideas about what i should do?
about 3 years ago
That’s not how it’s been working for me, I have the same enable pop for all mail option chcked. When I get a new message the rest are still sitting in my inbox. You sre it’s not filters or something on the Gmail side pull the messages out after they’re read?
about 3 years ago
mike,
i’ve had odd problems with gmail over pop in the past. it really doesn’t play well. though i’ve never had the problem of _losing_ emails, it seems to not download properly and such to a pop box or mark read or unread and such. it was too much of hassle, especially since i flash my proto so much and hate having to always enter the settings.
i would say that it might be different now, but knowing google, they hvaen’t changed the implementation since day 1.
i just use the wap version. it’s really good (very well implemented) and does the trick.
enjoy your e61.
tchau,
charlie
about 3 years ago
I recently bought a Nokia E61. Do you know if I can get my E61 to work as a blackberry in the US. I am a T-mobile suscriber.
Thank you
about 3 years ago
Need help!!!
I cannot seem to set up Gmail on my Nokia e61. I’ve tried everything suggested in the blogs. When I try to connect to Gmail, the device tells me “packet Data Service is Not Available”? I use T-Mobile. How is this possible. I am using ActiveSync for my work email and successfully set up a private email account on this device.
about 3 years ago
I get the packet data service not available message when I’m in a place that I don’t get service and try to use the cellular interface for networking. Did you setup a different access point to use with Gmail than you use with normal connectivity? Have you tested it out?
about 3 years ago
Whenever I send to somebody from gmail… i also receive my sent email on my e61… This is quite annoying. Do you have an idea of how to stop receiving my sent items?
thanks
about 3 years ago
Do you have “Send copy to self” turned on in the user settings for that mailbox?
about 3 years ago
Hi Miker…
I have that function turned off but my sent gmail emails are still received by my e61 as well as recipiants. Any other tips?
Thanks
about 3 years ago
I’m not seeing that with my setup, and I’m definitely not a gmail expert. Maybe they can help out?
about 3 years ago
Can someone help me in setting up Gmail for Vodafone in UK please!!! I’ll be very pleased
about 3 years ago
Does anyone have the secret to get GMAIL to work on my e61 in China using the chinese telecom system….
Ive tried the above but no result…
about 3 years ago
same problem:
“packet Data Service is Not Available” error, not only with my gmail but with my own server as well as hotmail. none of them work, I use the e61 in Spain with vodafone. Any ideas anyone…
I had better resuts through WAP five years ago… frustrating.
about 3 years ago
Does anyone know how to set up E61+ yahoo business mail+ cingular?
The phone does not want to accept the server settings from yahoo bizmail.
Help
about 3 years ago
For instance in Finland internet operators block all SMTP addresses expect their own (port 25)!
So use the smtp address of your own operator (25) OR
another address that is not 25 or any other common port. Secure smtp should work.
about 3 years ago
i got the outgoing to work when i change the Sec to SSL/TLS.
Outgoing email:
* Outgoing mail serv: smtp.googlemail.com
* Security (ports): SSL/TLS
* Port: 25
about 3 years ago
Dean:
Did you ever resolve this? I have same problem–very annoying.
“Whenever I send to somebody from gmail… i also receive my sent email on my e61… This is quite annoying. Do you have an idea of how to stop receiving my sent items?”
about 3 years ago
@ jay
i had that problem to try putting ‘recent:’ infront of your email address (e.g recent:god@gmail.com) when entering it as your user name for the incoming server details, that should fix the problem.
i hope this makes sense (its 2am after a long day) and sorts out ur problem.
about 3 years ago
Pete: In regards to Gmail disappearing from the mobile device inbox
Thanks for the advice about placing “recent:” in front of the username of the Incoming e-mail settings. I was also suffering the problem of my read messages disappearing from the e61 Gmail inbox. Now I can keep them during the next cycle of connecting/retrieving emails and they only disappear when I want them to.
A different problem I have observed with Gmail is that after I connect and retrieve messages, the e61 stays connected through the WLAN. Thats OK, but when I retrieve email again using any of the three choices (new, selected, all), nothing actually comes into my e61 inbox even when there is a new message visible in my web-based Gmail inbox. I have to manually disconnect and then re-connect the e61 and then the new messages will be downloaded into the e61 inbox.
Anybody else observing this? Any suggestions for resolving it?
about 3 years ago
I have tied the settings and they work. But when I try to send mail it sits there saying connecting. I am behind a router and doi it wifi, so I will have to try the generic data connection for the phone since I have umlimited data plan.
about 3 years ago
There’s definitely one critical point that should be emphasized – in particular that POP has to enabled in the Gmail Settings (on the web) before you cofigure and test your client. Your user account and password will constantly get rejected if you don’t.
about 3 years ago
Mike. Wow just got my E61… I was ticked off to not be able to use gmail, and thanks to you i can. Those settings worked like a charm!!
about 3 years ago
Hi,
I just got a E61 and desperate to use email on my E61 but cant seem to figure how to set it up…can someone help please..
I am in canada and using Fido network – can use gmail and/or hotmail….
please can u tell me the steps…would appreciate it very very much
thanks
alnasir
about 3 years ago
So does anyone already know how to solve the problem about the sent items that arrive in the inbox?? Definitely annoying..
Hope someone knows!
Cheers..
about 3 years ago
any luck with turning off the mail sent out ending in my inbox? Please help! Thanks!
about 3 years ago
Hi there,
Do you know how to reset an E61 to original NOKIA settings? Just got mine and it’s great except my totalitarian network provider has locked out some of the actually very useful features as well as installed its own very annoying and counterintuitive menu system – any ideas – oh I use an apple computer as well so any software hack might have to bear this in mind,
Ta
about 3 years ago
well i want a hotmail mailbox setting for my nokia E50i not google so plz can u people help me with it if u can then email me the settings of hotmail
my email id is evil_genius23@hotmail.com THANX
about 2 years ago
just got my first pop mail OUT of my Nokia E70.
I have t mobile. and of course bellsouth will not let you send outside of their domain.
setting are as above on first post except the * line, which I got in this post as well adn it worked.
Incoming email:
incoming mail serv: pop.gmail.com
mailbox type: POP3
Security(ports): SSL/TLS
Port: 995
APOP secure login: off
Outgoing email:
Outgoing mail serv: smtp.gmail.com
****Security (ports): SSL/TLS*****
Port: 25
about 2 years ago
I don’t like using gmail from the web interface or from the gmail java client. I wanted to use POP/SMTP to get my gmail. Here is how I got POP3 gmail to work with the E61′s Email Client.
1. Log into your gmail account and change your settings to allow POP3.
2. On your phone, set up a new email account as normal.
3. Set up the incoming/outgoing settings as follows:
Incomming:
User name: The email address you typicall use to log into gmail. I.E. “your username”@gmail.com
Password: The password you typically use to log into gmail
Incoming mail serv.: pop.gmail.com
Access point to use: Your choice
Mailbox name: Your choice, I choose “Gmail”
Mailbox Type: POP3
Security (ports): SSL/TLS
Port: User Defined / 995
APOP secure login: Off
Outgoing:
My email Address: Your gmail email address
Username: Your gmail email address you typically use to login
Password: Your gmail passwork you typicall use to login
Outgoing Mail serv: smtp.gmail.com
Access Point in use: Your choice
Security (ports): SSL/TLS
Port: User Defined / 465
That should get it going. You can customize how mail is stored on gmail from the gmail settings page. You can also set up auto retrieval from the settings on you phone. Just poke around the connection settings on your phone to see all the options. They are pretty self explainitory.
about 2 years ago
Hey, Looking at getting an E61 – I have tmobile, but no Data plan. Would just want to use WiFi for internet as needed, #1 use would be for Gmail, then blogs, etc.
Could I set it up so it was Wifi Only? like an ipod touch – just better :)
Thanks
Patrick
about 2 years ago
none of the above settings helped….the emails still keep disappearing…the suggestion to put ‘recent’ in the login got the phone d/l all the mails everytime…..anybody also facing problems after trying all the stuff mentioned here?
about 2 years ago
I came across your page during my desperate search to find how to set up my E61 to receive/send email. To the likes of you, I am totally computer illiterate, and it was really a mad idea to get a phone like this, but … your page was most helpful and now I have my email settings on my E61. So thank you!