Nokia E61 + Gmail + TMobile

Seeing as how I couldn’t get my typical email setup working well on the E61, I decided to poke around with some alternatives. I’ve been using Google Mail to get notifications for work already. They have an option to forward all messages but keep them in the inbox, which I have setup to forward all inbound emails to my TMobile SMTP gateway address. SMS notifications on inbound messages, and effective history, so it’s what I’ve been using for informational messages from the production servers. They have a nice mobile interface as well that’s usable from a browser.

So I decided to hack around not being able to get the email client to do what it’s supposed to in terms of fetching updates by setting up SMS notifications and using GMail. Gmail has a POP interface, which I found out from the fantastic E-Series blog does work with the messenger app. Both POP and SMTP actually. So I can get my notifications via SMS, and if necessary either connect to messenger or connect with the browser and do what I need to. I did have to poke around a bit to get this working though. Seems like it might be a TMo specific problem. Fetching email was fine, but SMTP didn’t work as described other places. I had to turn on encryption, but put the port back to 25 (standard SMTP). I remember someone mentioning that somewhere, maybe in a post about using GMail + TMo on the 6680 or something. So here are my settings for the connections (this seemed to be the trouble part):

  • Incoming email:
    • incoming mail serv: pop.googlemail.com
    • mailbox type: POP3
    • Security(ports): SSL/TLS
    • Port: 995
    • APOP secure login: off
  • Outgoing email:
    • Outgoing mail serv: smtp.googlemail.com
    • Security (ports): StartTLS
    • Port: 25

That got me up and going with Gmail on TMobile. Sure would be nice to try out other public email services using POP and SMTP directly from a handset. Yea, that would be really cool.

42 Responses to “Nokia E61 + Gmail + TMobile”

  1. ed Says:

    Hi Mike,
    That’s a good write up. Thanks for the kind words and stopping by my blog (e-series)
    Cheers!

  2. Russ Says:

    WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME? BLOOD?!?! I’VE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN… THE PUBLIC HUMILIATION IS TOO MUCH!

    Uh, ahem, yeah, I’ll send an email and figure out what happened to that stuff…

    -R

  3. miker Says:

    Woohoo!!! ;-) Nice new webpage by the way. And yes, blood would help.

  4. Steven Riley Says:

    If you send from google using smtp, does a copy go into your sent mail folder on gmail, or do you have to find another way to get your handheld replies into gmail?

    Steven

  5. miker Says:

    Hey Steven,

    Indeed a copy does go into your sent mail folder.

    - Mike

  6. peter Says:

    Have you had any luck configuring the tmo.blackberry.net email from tmobile? just curious.
    -p

  7. Hayyan Says:

    Hi,

    i tried the settings you gave, what it does is it says connecting to gmail inbox, and nothing ever happens !

    HELP !

  8. miker Says:

    I don’t work at Google or anything, I just tried out the setup and it worked for me. Still does as far as I can tell. And the config up there matches what I have on my E61.

  9. Isaac Says:

    I need help setting up email for yahoo on the E61. Can anyone help please. I NEED SETTING!!!

  10. jay Says:

    everything seems to be working on my e61, but when i recieve e-mails, all the old e-mails in my gmail inbox disappear and only the new ones show up. they are not deleted from the server, just on the device.

    in gmail, i’ve set “Enable POP for all mail (even mail that’s already been downloaded)”. though oddly, everytime i go back to that setting, it’s no longer selected. i’m guessing gmail makes that change after your first download of all e-mails.

    any ideas about what i should do?

  11. miker Says:

    That’s not how it’s been working for me, I have the same enable pop for all mail option chcked. When I get a new message the rest are still sitting in my inbox. You sre it’s not filters or something on the Gmail side pull the messages out after they’re read?

  12. charlie Says:

    mike,

    i’ve had odd problems with gmail over pop in the past. it really doesn’t play well. though i’ve never had the problem of _losing_ emails, it seems to not download properly and such to a pop box or mark read or unread and such. it was too much of hassle, especially since i flash my proto so much and hate having to always enter the settings.

    i would say that it might be different now, but knowing google, they hvaen’t changed the implementation since day 1.

    i just use the wap version. it’s really good (very well implemented) and does the trick.

    enjoy your e61.

    tchau,

    charlie

  13. Daniel Says:

    I recently bought a Nokia E61. Do you know if I can get my E61 to work as a blackberry in the US. I am a T-mobile suscriber.

    Thank you

  14. John Says:

    Need help!!!

    I cannot seem to set up Gmail on my Nokia e61. I’ve tried everything suggested in the blogs. When I try to connect to Gmail, the device tells me “packet Data Service is Not Available”? I use T-Mobile. How is this possible. I am using ActiveSync for my work email and successfully set up a private email account on this device.

  15. miker Says:

    I get the packet data service not available message when I’m in a place that I don’t get service and try to use the cellular interface for networking. Did you setup a different access point to use with Gmail than you use with normal connectivity? Have you tested it out?

  16. Dean Says:

    Whenever I send to somebody from gmail… i also receive my sent email on my e61… This is quite annoying. Do you have an idea of how to stop receiving my sent items?

    thanks

  17. miker Says:

    Do you have “Send copy to self” turned on in the user settings for that mailbox?

  18. Dean Says:

    Hi Miker…
    I have that function turned off but my sent gmail emails are still received by my e61 as well as recipiants. Any other tips?

    Thanks

  19. miker Says:

    I’m not seeing that with my setup, and I’m definitely not a gmail expert. Maybe they can help out?

  20. Wasim Abbas Says:

    Can someone help me in setting up Gmail for Vodafone in UK please!!! I’ll be very pleased

  21. Tom Says:

    Does anyone have the secret to get GMAIL to work on my e61 in China using the chinese telecom system….

    Ive tried the above but no result…

  22. bastien Says:

    same problem:
    “packet Data Service is Not Available” error, not only with my gmail but with my own server as well as hotmail. none of them work, I use the e61 in Spain with vodafone. Any ideas anyone…
    I had better resuts through WAP five years ago… frustrating.

  23. beth Says:

    Does anyone know how to set up E61+ yahoo business mail+ cingular?
    The phone does not want to accept the server settings from yahoo bizmail.
    Help

  24. Jesse Says:

    For instance in Finland internet operators block all SMTP addresses expect their own (port 25)!

    So use the smtp address of your own operator (25) OR
    another address that is not 25 or any other common port. Secure smtp should work.

  25. M Says:

    i got the outgoing to work when i change the Sec to SSL/TLS.

    Outgoing email:

    * Outgoing mail serv: smtp.googlemail.com
    * Security (ports): SSL/TLS
    * Port: 25

  26. PJ Says:

    Dean:

    Did you ever resolve this? I have same problem–very annoying.

    “Whenever I send to somebody from gmail… i also receive my sent email on my e61… This is quite annoying. Do you have an idea of how to stop receiving my sent items?”

  27. Pete Says:

    @ jay

    i had that problem to try putting ‘recent:’ infront of your email address (e.g recent:god@gmail.com) when entering it as your user name for the incoming server details, that should fix the problem.

    i hope this makes sense (its 2am after a long day) and sorts out ur problem.

  28. Terry Says:

    Pete: In regards to Gmail disappearing from the mobile device inbox

    Thanks for the advice about placing “recent:” in front of the username of the Incoming e-mail settings. I was also suffering the problem of my read messages disappearing from the e61 Gmail inbox. Now I can keep them during the next cycle of connecting/retrieving emails and they only disappear when I want them to.

    A different problem I have observed with Gmail is that after I connect and retrieve messages, the e61 stays connected through the WLAN. Thats OK, but when I retrieve email again using any of the three choices (new, selected, all), nothing actually comes into my e61 inbox even when there is a new message visible in my web-based Gmail inbox. I have to manually disconnect and then re-connect the e61 and then the new messages will be downloaded into the e61 inbox.

    Anybody else observing this? Any suggestions for resolving it?

  29. Mixoplex Says:

    I have tied the settings and they work. But when I try to send mail it sits there saying connecting. I am behind a router and doi it wifi, so I will have to try the generic data connection for the phone since I have umlimited data plan.

  30. mantissa Says:

    There’s definitely one critical point that should be emphasized - in particular that POP has to enabled in the Gmail Settings (on the web) before you cofigure and test your client. Your user account and password will constantly get rejected if you don’t.

  31. Lys Says:

    Mike. Wow just got my E61… I was ticked off to not be able to use gmail, and thanks to you i can. Those settings worked like a charm!!

  32. Alnasir Says:

    Hi,

    I just got a E61 and desperate to use email on my E61 but cant seem to figure how to set it up…can someone help please..

    I am in canada and using Fido network - can use gmail and/or hotmail….

    please can u tell me the steps…would appreciate it very very much

    thanks
    alnasir

  33. Dennis Says:

    So does anyone already know how to solve the problem about the sent items that arrive in the inbox?? Definitely annoying..

    Hope someone knows!

    Cheers..

  34. keyman Says:

    any luck with turning off the mail sent out ending in my inbox? Please help! Thanks!

  35. Adam Says:

    Hi there,

    Do you know how to reset an E61 to original NOKIA settings? Just got mine and it’s great except my totalitarian network provider has locked out some of the actually very useful features as well as installed its own very annoying and counterintuitive menu system - any ideas - oh I use an apple computer as well so any software hack might have to bear this in mind,

    Ta

  36. Faizan Says:

    well i want a hotmail mailbox setting for my nokia E50i not google so plz can u people help me with it if u can then email me the settings of hotmail
    my email id is evil_genius23@hotmail.com THANX

  37. EJ Woj Says:

    just got my first pop mail OUT of my Nokia E70.

    I have t mobile. and of course bellsouth will not let you send outside of their domain.

    setting are as above on first post except the * line, which I got in this post as well adn it worked.

    Incoming email:
    incoming mail serv: pop.gmail.com
    mailbox type: POP3
    Security(ports): SSL/TLS
    Port: 995
    APOP secure login: off
    Outgoing email:
    Outgoing mail serv: smtp.gmail.com
    ****Security (ports): SSL/TLS*****
    Port: 25

  38. John C Says:

    I don’t like using gmail from the web interface or from the gmail java client. I wanted to use POP/SMTP to get my gmail. Here is how I got POP3 gmail to work with the E61’s Email Client.

    1. Log into your gmail account and change your settings to allow POP3.
    2. On your phone, set up a new email account as normal.
    3. Set up the incoming/outgoing settings as follows:

    Incomming:

    User name: The email address you typicall use to log into gmail. I.E. “your username”@gmail.com
    Password: The password you typically use to log into gmail
    Incoming mail serv.: pop.gmail.com
    Access point to use: Your choice
    Mailbox name: Your choice, I choose “Gmail”
    Mailbox Type: POP3
    Security (ports): SSL/TLS
    Port: User Defined / 995
    APOP secure login: Off

    Outgoing:
    My email Address: Your gmail email address
    Username: Your gmail email address you typically use to login
    Password: Your gmail passwork you typicall use to login
    Outgoing Mail serv: smtp.gmail.com
    Access Point in use: Your choice
    Security (ports): SSL/TLS
    Port: User Defined / 465

    That should get it going. You can customize how mail is stored on gmail from the gmail settings page. You can also set up auto retrieval from the settings on you phone. Just poke around the connection settings on your phone to see all the options. They are pretty self explainitory.

  39. Patrick Says:

    Hey, Looking at getting an E61 - I have tmobile, but no Data plan. Would just want to use WiFi for internet as needed, #1 use would be for Gmail, then blogs, etc.

    Could I set it up so it was Wifi Only? like an ipod touch - just better :)

    Thanks

    Patrick

  40. HA Says:

    none of the above settings helped….the emails still keep disappearing…the suggestion to put ‘recent’ in the login got the phone d/l all the mails everytime…..anybody also facing problems after trying all the stuff mentioned here?

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  42. HK Says:

    I came across your page during my desperate search to find how to set up my E61 to receive/send email. To the likes of you, I am totally computer illiterate, and it was really a mad idea to get a phone like this, but … your page was most helpful and now I have my email settings on my E61. So thank you!

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