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		<title>By: KW</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-68873</link>
		<dc:creator>KW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm an owner of Nokia 8862, and a Treo 650.  The Treo blowns nokia out of the water COMPLETELY in absolutely everything.  Now before anyone says I'm biased or anything, I am a hardcore nokia fan.  ALL my phones (8 of them) have been Nokias, and I just rescently broke that streak and picked up a Treo a few months ago.  I didn't know what I was missing, looks like it'll be nothing but Treos for me from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an owner of Nokia 8862, and a Treo 650.  The Treo blowns nokia out of the water COMPLETELY in absolutely everything.  Now before anyone says I&#8217;m biased or anything, I am a hardcore nokia fan.  ALL my phones (8 of them) have been Nokias, and I just rescently broke that streak and picked up a Treo a few months ago.  I didn&#8217;t know what I was missing, looks like it&#8217;ll be nothing but Treos for me from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: G-MaN</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>G-MaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this all boils down to personal preferance. I personally like the S60 devices. A lot of new and cool aps out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this all boils down to personal preferance. I personally like the S60 devices. A lot of new and cool aps out there.</p>
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		<title>By: pocket pc</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>pocket pc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El treo 650 es mas eficiente y un millon de veses mejor que el celular osea como conparan tecnilogia de punta con un insignificante cecular
el treo tiene toda las funciones de un celular hasta oseas banos no el treo 650 hace pedasos a ese pobre celula</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El treo 650 es mas eficiente y un millon de veses mejor que el celular osea como conparan tecnilogia de punta con un insignificante cecular<br />
el treo tiene toda las funciones de un celular hasta oseas banos no el treo 650 hace pedasos a ese pobre celula</p>
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		<title>By: Treo Today &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treo 650 vs. Nokia 6680</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Treo Today &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treo 650 vs. Nokia 6680</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike Rowehl does a thorough comparison between the two smartphones. The Treo wins on many points, including the keyboard and the screen. Check out the videos he took using the 650 and 6680 and judge the quality for yourself. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mike Rowehl does a thorough comparison between the two smartphones. The Treo wins on many points, including the keyboard and the screen. Check out the videos he took using the 650 and 6680 and judge the quality for yourself. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrikki, the Treo line has always been able to be fully controlled with one hand.  The 5 way d-pad is perfectly integrated throughout the system.

I know on mine, I've never even taken the stylus out of the holder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrikki, the Treo line has always been able to be fully controlled with one hand.  The 5 way d-pad is perfectly integrated throughout the system.</p>
<p>I know on mine, I&#8217;ve never even taken the stylus out of the holder.</p>
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		<title>By: version 0.1  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Smartphone links - not marriage related</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>version 0.1  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Smartphone links - not marriage related</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nteresting comparison of the Treo 650 and the latest Nokia 3G phone, the 6680 can be found here. I&#8217;ve been using a Treo 650 for the last month and before that I had a 6630. I feel I had some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nteresting comparison of the Treo 650 and the latest Nokia 3G phone, the 6680 can be found here. I&#8217;ve been using a Treo 650 for the last month and before that I had a 6630. I feel I had some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting comparison. I bought a Treo 650 about 4 weeks ago having used a Nokia 7650, SE P800, Nokia 6600 and a Nokia 6630. I have a number of problems with the Series 60 UI but the biggest has to be that the title bar at the top and the shortcut bar at the bottom of screen take up  almost a third of the screen!

For me the benefits of the Treo have been the keyboard and the screen. Apps on S60 like tasks and calendar just don't display enough info on the 6630 and its cousins. You get about two words about the task or appointment making it next to useless. It was interesting that in Russ's (excellent) review of what's on his 6680 he mentioned he very rarely uses the PIM functionality. This was one of the biggest problems I had with the platform. The screen has excellent resolution and I like the simple look of the UI. It's minimalist and uses excellent smoothed fonts. Symbian could certainly learn from Palm on that front!

I'm surprised that you highlighted battery life as a concern. My Treo has managed 5 days (admittedly with minimal use) between charges. My 6630 had huge problems with battery life although I think this was because I'm on the borders of a 3G cell and the phone spent the night flipping between the two technologies. It sometimes wouldn't last 24 hours.

The Treo hasn't been perfect however. The most noticeable problems have been with Versamail crashing when it tried to retrieve email when I'm on the tube (and there's obviously no GPRS. It has required resets and although this happened on the Nokia it didn't require removing the battery life and using the stylus. If your platform occasionally needs rebooting that's OK but include an on / off switch! There are problems with the single tasking OS, well actually there more like annoyances. The fact that once I put the phone in "dial up networking" mode I can't use the email and web apps on the phone itself is a little strange. Nokia can't actually do both at the same time but the OS is capable of handling this transparently and simply drops the applications' GPRS connections. The Palm OS is capable of covering up for the single tasking since all of its applications save their state and open up quickly. It doesn't work every time though and the phone app in particular takes a while to open up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting comparison. I bought a Treo 650 about 4 weeks ago having used a Nokia 7650, SE P800, Nokia 6600 and a Nokia 6630. I have a number of problems with the Series 60 UI but the biggest has to be that the title bar at the top and the shortcut bar at the bottom of screen take up  almost a third of the screen!</p>
<p>For me the benefits of the Treo have been the keyboard and the screen. Apps on S60 like tasks and calendar just don&#8217;t display enough info on the 6630 and its cousins. You get about two words about the task or appointment making it next to useless. It was interesting that in Russ&#8217;s (excellent) review of what&#8217;s on his 6680 he mentioned he very rarely uses the PIM functionality. This was one of the biggest problems I had with the platform. The screen has excellent resolution and I like the simple look of the UI. It&#8217;s minimalist and uses excellent smoothed fonts. Symbian could certainly learn from Palm on that front!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that you highlighted battery life as a concern. My Treo has managed 5 days (admittedly with minimal use) between charges. My 6630 had huge problems with battery life although I think this was because I&#8217;m on the borders of a 3G cell and the phone spent the night flipping between the two technologies. It sometimes wouldn&#8217;t last 24 hours.</p>
<p>The Treo hasn&#8217;t been perfect however. The most noticeable problems have been with Versamail crashing when it tried to retrieve email when I&#8217;m on the tube (and there&#8217;s obviously no GPRS. It has required resets and although this happened on the Nokia it didn&#8217;t require removing the battery life and using the stylus. If your platform occasionally needs rebooting that&#8217;s OK but include an on / off switch! There are problems with the single tasking OS, well actually there more like annoyances. The fact that once I put the phone in &#8220;dial up networking&#8221; mode I can&#8217;t use the email and web apps on the phone itself is a little strange. Nokia can&#8217;t actually do both at the same time but the OS is capable of handling this transparently and simply drops the applications&#8217; GPRS connections. The Palm OS is capable of covering up for the single tasking since all of its applications save their state and open up quickly. It doesn&#8217;t work every time though and the phone app in particular takes a while to open up.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrikki</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nokiausa.com/nokia_accessories/messaging/1,2231,,00.html

There is qwerty for you..:). 

Personally I think you can't get the two:qwerty and smallish size into one. I rather have my phone small than bigger, so I can live without qwerty.

I do IM and e-mails with my 6630.. If I would do them a lot I would buy the qwerty above. It even has a cradle you can put your phone on to, so that it is in a convinient angle when typing.</description>
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<p>There is qwerty for you..:). </p>
<p>Personally I think you can&#8217;t get the two:qwerty and smallish size into one. I rather have my phone small than bigger, so I can live without qwerty.</p>
<p>I do IM and e-mails with my 6630.. If I would do them a lot I would buy the qwerty above. It even has a cradle you can put your phone on to, so that it is in a convinient angle when typing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6680 looks good. But Nokia still doesn't get it. They need a real qwerty keypad for PDA phones, compared to regular phones.

Handling e-mail, IM and browsing with T9 text input is like typing with only your thumbs. It make "real" text communications painfully slow, even with practice. Hence the morse coder vs. sms stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6680 looks good. But Nokia still doesn&#8217;t get it. They need a real qwerty keypad for PDA phones, compared to regular phones.</p>
<p>Handling e-mail, IM and browsing with T9 text input is like typing with only your thumbs. It make &#8220;real&#8221; text communications painfully slow, even with practice. Hence the morse coder vs. sms stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2005/06/16/treo-650-vs-6680/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erh. Yes, but you should make clear that the criteria under which you're going to choose a _phone_ is PDA functionality.

With that as the criteria, I wouldn't even bother testing any series 60 device...

The thing is, it's made out as if it were a: "head to head comparison of the two units."

But, yes, he had no time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erh. Yes, but you should make clear that the criteria under which you&#8217;re going to choose a _phone_ is PDA functionality.</p>
<p>With that as the criteria, I wouldn&#8217;t even bother testing any series 60 device&#8230;</p>
<p>The thing is, it&#8217;s made out as if it were a: &#8220;head to head comparison of the two units.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, yes, he had no time.</p>
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